Chris Hipkins in the Labour leader's office at Parliament, where he is still waiting to properly move in. Photo / Mark Mitchell

As Chris Hipkins adjusts from life as Prime Minister to plain Labour leader, he sits down with Audrey Young to talk about the transition:

  • The mental adjustment to Opposition
  • His highlight as Prime Minister
  • Luxon’s attack on him this week
  • Playing Scrabble with partner Toni Grace
  • The vibe of the campaign

It’s the political equivalent of the television reality show Rich House

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